Comments on: Great perspective on Cy Young discussion http://baybridgebaseball.com/2010/08/great-perspective-on-cy-young-discussion/ An A's-Giants blog Sat, 18 May 2013 11:46:40 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.2 By: TalentScout http://baybridgebaseball.com/2010/08/great-perspective-on-cy-young-discussion/comment-page-1/#comment-3391 TalentScout Fri, 27 Aug 2010 05:18:53 +0000 http://baybridgebaseball.com/?p=1937#comment-3391 Hell yes! Thank you very much for setting the record straight with this prediction vs what we've actually observed gulf that seems to exist whenever baseball people and the SABR crowd attempt to describe the same players. I'd suggest the vast majority of times non SABR people are simply asking the question of what's the best stat to confirm what our eyes have seen already (or think they've seen) in terms of who's the best at their position for a given season. Simple as that. No need to get into a long academic dissertation over the predictiveness or how what's been observed is dismissed as "luck" when it's common knowledge amongst baseball men for decades there are some skills the SABR crowd have yet to capture or quantify. Seems to me, we have fans/beat writers on one extreme & the SABR (predictive guys) on the other end of the spectrum both adamantly believe their view is an absolute truth. In reality, neither is quite right or wrong, but their unyielding devotion to their beliefs (and pet metrics) have become a shrill battleground of defensive verbal sparring & mis-communication which simply doesn't map to what a casual observer of the game sees. Are we all watching the same game or have the SABR abstractions & sports-writer prejudices become so entrenched those two parties just refused to admit they might not be the smartest kid in the room? Hell yes! Thank you very much for setting the record straight with this prediction vs what we’ve actually observed gulf that seems to exist whenever baseball people and the SABR crowd attempt to describe the same players.

I’d suggest the vast majority of times non SABR people are simply asking the question of what’s the best stat to confirm what our eyes have seen already (or think they’ve seen) in terms of who’s the best at their position for a given season.

Simple as that.

No need to get into a long academic dissertation over the predictiveness or how what’s been observed is dismissed as “luck” when it’s common knowledge amongst baseball men for decades there are some skills the SABR crowd have yet to capture or quantify.

Seems to me, we have fans/beat writers on one extreme & the SABR (predictive guys) on the other end of the spectrum both adamantly believe their view is an absolute truth.

In reality, neither is quite right or wrong, but their unyielding devotion to their beliefs (and pet metrics) have become a shrill battleground of defensive verbal sparring & mis-communication which simply doesn’t map to what a casual observer of the game sees.

Are we all watching the same game or have the SABR abstractions & sports-writer prejudices become so entrenched those two parties just refused to admit they might not be the smartest kid in the room?

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